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| Message From: Anu |
Total Posts: 1 |
Rank: Beginner |
| Post Date: 02/08/2006 03:14:44 |
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Hi, A small case -let me know ur point of view.. X person has travelled abroad on offical purpose to US. After his duration of official work is completed he applies for 1 week leave /vacation in the US. After vacation he joins back office but request the HR not to mark 2 days as leave as he was travelling on those days. (His support statemment is - as he was on official work the company can grant him grace period for travel, if he was traveling from US to India on that day, the same would have applied ) Let me know your point of view if he should be marked on leave or not for those 2 days thanks anu |
| Message From: melanie |
Total Posts: 1 |
Rank: Beginner |
| Post Date: 02/08/2006 06:07:00 |
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Dear Anu, In my opinion, first X should have made these issues clear before he left for his travel. If it was a change of plan after he left, the general rules, policies and procedures should be applied for such scenario. He cannot be granted favouritism because his trip was initially for business. Best regards, melanie |
| Message From: CHRM |
Total Posts: 176 |
Rank: Learner |
| Post Date: 02/08/2006 11:31:20 |
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Dear Anu, Firstly while granting leave to Mr. X, the company should have made it clear about the procedure for leave salary deduction. However, if the company has not specified regarding the same to Mr. X, then his salary for 2 days cannot be deducted since it had to be assumed that it shall take travel time for him to resume normal duties. Hence, it was the responsibility of the HR department to have made the things clear before the entire process was concluded. Out here, lack of mentioning the true fact may lead to the case being favored by the side of Mr. X. Regards, CHRM "To win...you must stay in the game" - Claude Bristol |
| Message From: sabi |
Total Posts: 6 |
Rank: Beginner |
| Post Date: 03/08/2006 03:29:21 |
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I agree on the lines of chrm that the company should have cited the leave policy procedure to Mr. X in instances like these to avoid further confusion. Now since the company haven't mentioned the same while granting leave, the leave deduction (2 days) of Mr. X won't be appropriate. Regards, sabi |
| Message From: Talochka |
Total Posts: 2 |
Rank: Beginner |
| Post Date: 07/11/2009 07:25:50 |
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| I support melamie, on this - person has to obtain an approval for these days to be marked, prior his travel. HR cannot be responsible for persons plans, when he is already away and all documentation is actually filed and subbmited. |
| Message From: varadharajen |
Total Posts: 6 |
Rank: Beginner |
| Post Date: 15/11/2009 18:01:21 |
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Hi, Mr.x was on official duty to US, as per ( your) company policies, assuming that, the company naturally paying all trip expenses. When there was no clear plan of business and instruction from the company, individual can think extending his stay which is due to lack of communication from the company side only. For an individual travelling on overseas trip, in case, he is not well and unable to complete local appointments then there is a possibility of extending the days, rarely, in which case, definitely the company is allowing the extra days expenses. In some cases, even an individual is strictly following the schedule, sometime to his convenience, changing the plans, taking break for his personal pleasure, for which also company would accommodate. For genuine reasons, with permissions, he has just extended his stay spending from his pocket for the extended days, in which case you can pay back his eligibile leave and return journey cost as his business trip expenses. Regards Varadharajen |
| Message From: Teenzz |
Total Posts: 1 |
Rank: Beginner |
| Post Date: 07/12/2009 18:13:40 |
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Hello, Ideally, extending a business trip to a personal vacation should require prior approval. Altering plans at last minute, would include charges for date change in ticket, extended travel insurance. There should be clear and defined understanding that during the extended vacation period, company is not liable for the employee's expenses and any compensation arising out of accident, etc. Generally travel days are included as part of business trip. In my opinion, if company has incurred severe loss of business, Management can decide if it wants to give a warning to the employee for such unresponsible behavior by way of deducting these 2 leaves. |
| Message From: kumara |
Total Posts: 1 |
Rank: Beginner |
| Post Date: 23/02/2010 11:47:04 |
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Dear Anu, I am not getting into the complexity of your organization's approval taking process!!! In my opinin, Mr X is right. He will be eligible for 2 travelling days with a simple logic that he would have spent those 2 days anyways.... good luck |
| Message From: szeglet |
Total Posts: 3 |
Rank: Beginner |
| Post Date: 01/03/2010 22:24:27 |
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| I would agree with Mr. X on the grace period, since he had to travel anyway for the trip. However, this have to be dealt before the travel and decided on the case by case basis and not afterward. For damage controll, in the future the company have to make it clear if something like this is not desired or not paid. |
| Message From: Adeyinka |
Total Posts: 1 |
Rank: Beginner |
| Post Date: 15/04/2010 17:13:07 |
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| How has this scenario been treated in the past? more importantly, is there a company policy around this sort of situation? if not you might want to look at getting one in place so that next time it is clear right of the bat... |
| Message From: rk_zawar |
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Rank: Beginner |
| Post Date: 10/05/2010 15:07:17 |
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| I Think the matter is very clear and the wages should be paid as any how if he would not have taken leave it would be Concidered |
| Message From: reachscorpion |
Total Posts: 3 |
Rank: Beginner |
| Post Date: 27/05/2010 12:51:13 |
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Ideally, extending a business trip to a personal vacation should require prior approval. Altering plans at last minute, would include charges for date change in ticket, extended travel insurance. There should be clear and defined understanding that during the extended vacation period, company is not liable for the employee's expenses and any compensation arising out of accident, etc. Generally travel days are included as part of business trip. In my opinion, if company has incurred severe loss of business, Management can decide if it wants to give a warning to the employee for such unresponsible behavior by way of deducting these 2 leaves. |
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